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gaza's health ministry says more than 3a,000 palestinians have been killed in the conflict so far. the uk prime minister says he is "appalled" by the way police treated a jewish man during a pro—palestinian demonstration in london. now on bbc news...it�*s time for newscast with laura kuensberg and paddy o'connell. newscast from the bbc. hello, it is laura in the — newscast from the bbc. hello, it is laura in the studio. _ newscast from the bbc. hello, it is laura in the studio. it _ newscast from the bbc. hello, it is laura in the studio. it is _ newscast from the bbc. hello, it is laura in the studio. it is paddy - newscast from the bbc. hello, it is laura in the studio. it is paddy in i laura in the studio. it is paddy in the studio- _ laura in the studio. it is paddy in the studio. and _ laura in the studio. it is paddy in the studio. and nick— laura in the studio. it is paddy in the studio. and nick from - laura in the studio. it is paddy in - the studio. and nick from newsnight. after months — the studio. and nick from newsnight. after months and _ the studio. and nick from newsnight. after months and months _ the studio. and nick from newsnight. after months and months of- after months and months of wrangling, which we have talked about lots of times, on saturday evening us congress finally passed a bill to send just over $61 billion
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of aid to ukraine. not clear when it will arrive, so you have to be careful of politicians dangling big price tags, but the package goes to the senate where it is expected to pass before president biden will sign it into law. let's have a bug at to listen. sign it into law. let's have a bug at to listen-— at to listen. the bill is passed without projection. _ at to listen. the bill is passed without projection. if - at to listen. the bill is passed without projection. if you - at to listen. the bill is passed i without projection. if you break at to listen. the bill is passed - without projection. if you break the without pro'ection. if you break the down all without projection. if you break the down all of the _ without projection. if you break the down all of the house _ without projection. if you break the down all of the house democrats i down all of the house democrats voted _ down all of the house democrats voted for — down all of the house democrats voted for the _ down all of the house democrats voted for the measure _ down all of the house democrats voted for the measure and - down all of the house democrats voted for the measure and morel voted for the measure and more republicans _ voted for the measure and more republicans voted _ voted for the measure and more republicans voted against - voted for the measure and more republicans voted against it - voted for the measure and morel republicans voted against it than for it _ republicans voted against it than for it. inevitably _ republicans voted against it than for it. inevitably it _ republicans voted against it than for it. inevitably it is _ republicans voted against it than for it. inevitably it is a _ republicans voted against it than for it. inevitably it is a reminderl for it. inevitably it is a reminder of why— for it. inevitably it is a reminder of why it — for it. inevitably it is a reminder of why it was _ for it. inevitably it is a reminder of why it was held _ for it. inevitably it is a reminder of why it was held up, _ for it. inevitably it is a reminder of why it was held up, why- for it. inevitably it is a reminder of why it was held up, why it- for it. inevitably it is a reminder. of why it was held up, why it could be a of why it was held up, why it could he a political— of why it was held up, why it could be a political issue _ of why it was held up, why it could be a political issue still— of why it was held up, why it could be a political issue still in - of why it was held up, why it could be a political issue still in this - be a political issue still in this election— be a political issue still in this election year— be a political issue still in this election year in _ be a political issue still in this election year in the _ be a political issue still in this election year in the us. - be a political issue still in this election year in the us. radioj be a political issue still in this - election year in the us. radio four this morning — election year in the us. radio four this morning we _ election year in the us. radio four this morning we heard _ election year in the us. radio four this morning we heard from - election year in the us. radio four i this morning we heard from michael clarke _ this morning we heard from michael clarke the _ this morning we heard from michael clarke the defence _ this morning we heard from michael clarke the defence think _ this morning we heard from michael clarke the defence think tank- this morning we heard from michael clarke the defence think tank and i clarke the defence think tank and expert— clarke the defence think tank and expert advisor, _ clarke the defence think tank and expert advisor, and _ clarke the defence think tank and expert advisor, and he _ clarke the defence think tank and expert advisor, and he comparedj clarke the defence think tank and - expert advisor, and he compared this vote to _ expert advisor, and he compared this vote to europe's— expert advisor, and he compared this vote to europe's great _ expert advisor, and he compared this vote to europe's great struggles - expert advisor, and he compared this vote to europe's great struggles for. vote to europe's great struggles for freedom _ vote to europe's great struggles for freedom in— vote to europe's great struggles for freedom in the _ vote to europe's great struggles for freedom in the past. _ vote to europe's great struggles for freedom in the past. the?- vote to europe's great struggles for freedom in the past.— freedom in the past. they have to sta in freedom in the past. they have to stay in the — freedom in the past. they have to stay in the war— freedom in the past. they have to stay in the war this _ freedom in the past. they have to stay in the war this year _ freedom in the past. they have to stay in the war this year and - freedom in the past. they have to stay in the war this year and next | stay in the war this year and next year things may change in a more structured way. but for the ukrainians, it is a bit like in the
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second world war, this is the 1941 moment. there was nothing but defeat before then, the balance shifted for the allies during 1941, but the effect wasn't felt until the autumn of 1942. that was the first time the tide began to turn. that of1942. that was the first time the tide began to turn.— tide began to turn. that is so interesting — tide began to turn. that is so interesting to _ tide began to turn. that is so interesting to put _ tide began to turn. that is so interesting to put it - tide began to turn. that is so interesting to put it into - tide began to turn. that is so interesting to put it into that | interesting to put it into that context because those are the kind of mornings we've had coming out of ukraine, saying unless this happens, the tide is going to go the wrong way, we know they have been struggling in recent months and i remember talking to the first lady of ukraine saying our guys at the front are running out of shells, this is a practical real problem right now. they have been saying that for months. how do you think are politicians will feel about the us being able to move on this? timer;r us being able to move on this? they will be delighted _ us being able to move on this? they will be delighted because the uk's commitment to you crane across all parties _ commitment to you crane across all parties is _ commitment to you crane across all parties is an— commitment to you crane across all parties is an ironclad commitment. -- ukraine — parties is an ironclad commitment. —— ukraine. but unless you have that crucial _ —— ukraine. but unless you have that crucial support from the united states. — crucial support from the united states, you are going to struggle. i was talking some time ago to one of rishi sunak's closest allies and i
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said as — rishi sunak's closest allies and i said as the — rishi sunak's closest allies and i said as the following scenario going to happen _ said as the following scenario going to happen in the year below the us presidential election, donald trump is going _ presidential election, donald trump is going to — presidential election, donald trump is going to dominate the republican field and _ is going to dominate the republican field and in congress they will get nervous _ field and in congress they will get nervous they will not be support for ukraine _ nervous they will not be support for ukraine. this person very close to the prime — ukraine. this person very close to the prime minister said no, that will not — the prime minister said no, that will not happen because the so—called national security republicans, put in with the democrats and all will be fine. that is not _ democrats and all will be fine. that is not what — democrats and all will be fine. that is not what happened. it has been held op. _ is not what happened. it has been held up, but it appears fundamentally the reason why speaker johnson _ fundamentally the reason why speaker johnson was able to get this over the line _ johnson was able to get this over the line was he went and saw donald trump _ the line was he went and saw donald trump who— the line was he went and saw donald trump who said i agree with the dissenters, with marjorie taylor green. — dissenters, with marjorie taylor green, but you are doing a good job, speaker~ _ green, but you are doing a good job, speaker. donald trump, not the president. — speaker. donald trump, not the president, has been crucial to these calculations. the president, has been crucial to these calculations— calculations. the big news cast assessing _ calculations. the big news cast assessing two _ calculations. the big news cast assessing two nuclear- calculations. the big news cast - assessing two nuclear superpowers funding a war in europe. that is not
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something to cheer about. the destination is a table, with peace talks. but what i am hearing from michael clarke is that is a long, long way away. but michael clarke is that is a long, long way away-— michael clarke is that is a long, long way away. but if the definition is eace long way away. but if the definition is peace talks. _ long way away. but if the definition is peace talks, and _ long way away. but if the definition is peace talks, and it _ long way away. but if the definition is peace talks, and it was _ long way away. but if the definition | is peace talks, and it was tomorrow, then rush _ is peace talks, and it was tomorrow, then rush it— is peace talks, and it was tomorrow, then rush it would have significant chunks _ then rush it would have significant chunks of— then rush it would have significant chunks of ukraine and they would accept _ chunks of ukraine and they would accept that, and then the concern is five or— accept that, and then the concern is five or six— accept that, and then the concern is five or six years down the line, hack— five or six years down the line, back we — five or six years down the line, back we go, russia go in again. is the deep — back we go, russia go in again. is the deep concern why there are deep fears about _ the deep concern why there are deep fears about having a peace settlement now. | fears about having a peace settlement now. , , ., settlement now. i suppose, in a way, this vote closes _ settlement now. i suppose, in a way, this vote closes down _ settlement now. i suppose, in a way, this vote closes down one _ settlement now. i suppose, in a way, this vote closes down one episode . settlement now. i suppose, in a way, this vote closes down one episode in | this vote closes down one episode in this vote closes down one episode in this ongoing conflict and how western politicians are grappling with it, because that package has now been passed. taste with it, because that package has now been passed.— with it, because that package has now been passed. we will move on because lots _ now been passed. we will move on because lots to _ now been passed. we will move on because lots to get _ now been passed. we will move on because lots to get to _ now been passed. we will move on because lots to get to on _ now been passed. we will move on because lots to get to on the - now been passed. we will move on | because lots to get to on the sunday round—up. but that vote happened, the reaction is coming in and we now move to the senate where it expected to pass. move to the senate where it expected to ass. . move to the senate where it expected to ass. , ., ., to pass. this morning, after we talked a lot _ to pass. this morning, after we talked a lot about _ to pass. this morning, after we talked a lot about climate -
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to pass. this morning, after we l talked a lot about climate change yesterday, he said in his view rishi sunak assets the uk back. he had a telling off for all politicians for being afraid to talk about climate change with the same vigour they did a couple of years ago. we put to the energy secretary this morning this accusation that the government is going the wrong way. they are not on track to meet the 2030 climate target, but it was interesting this morning, she very clearly said that target was going to be met and it will stay. brute target was going to be met and it will sta . ~ ., ., ., ., will stay. we are not moving away from our targets _ will stay. we are not moving away from our targets and _ will stay. we are not moving away from our targets and i _ will stay. we are not moving away from our targets and i would - will stay. we are not moving away from our targets and i would just l from our targets and i would just say, _ from our targets and i would just say, again. — from our targets and i would just say, again. out— from our targets and i would just say, again. out of— from our targets and i would just say, again, out of all— from our targets and i would just say, again, out of all of- from our targets and i would just say, again, out of all of our- say, again, out of all of our targets, _ say, again, out of all of our targets, not— say, again, out of all of our targets, not only _ say, again, out of all of our targets, not only have - say, again, out of all of our targets, not only have we l say, again, out of all of our- targets, not only have we met, we have _ targets, not only have we met, we have overshot~ _ targets, not only have we met, we have overshot. if— targets, not only have we met, we have overshot. if you _ targets, not only have we met, we have overshot. if you look - targets, not only have we met, we have overshot. if you look at - targets, not only have we met, we have overshot. if you look at the l have overshot. if you look at the scottish — have overshot. if you look at the scottish government, _ have overshot. if you look at the scottish government, out - have overshot. if you look at the scottish government, out of - have overshot. if you look at the scottish government, out of the | have overshot. if you look at the - scottish government, out of the last 12 targets, _ scottish government, out of the last 12 targets, thev've _ scottish government, out of the last 12 targets, they've missed _ scottish government, out of the last 12 targets, they've missed eight- scottish government, out of the last 12 targets, they've missed eight of. 12 targets, they've missed eight of them _ 12 targets, they've missed eight of them we — 12 targets, they've missed eight of them we have _ 12 targets, they've missed eight of them. we have a _ 12 targets, they've missed eight of them. we have a strong _ 12 targets, they've missed eight of them. we have a strong track- 12 targets, they've missed eight of| them. we have a strong track track record _ them. we have a strong track track record of— them. we have a strong track track record of delivery. _ them. we have a strong track track record of delivery. you _ them. we have a strong track track record of delivery. you can- them. we have a strong track track record of delivery. you can do- them. we have a strong track track record of delivery. you can do thisl record of delivery. you can do this in a fair— record of delivery. you can do this in a fair way— record of delivery. you can do this in a fair way and _ record of delivery. you can do this in a fair way and make _ record of delivery. you can do this in a fair way and make sure - record of delivery. you can do this in a fair way and make sure we - record of delivery. you can do this| in a fair way and make sure we are protecting — in a fair way and make sure we are protecting hassles, _ in a fair way and make sure we are protecting hassles, or— in a fair way and make sure we are protecting hassles, or take, - in a fair way and make sure we are protecting hassles, ortake, for. protecting hassles, or take, for ekampie. — protecting hassles, or take, for ekampie. the _ protecting hassles, or take, for example, the labour— protecting hassles, ortake, forj example, the labour approach, protecting hassles, ortake, for- example, the labour approach, the changes— example, the labour approach, the changes they —
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example, the labour approach, the changes they want _ example, the labour approach, the changes they want to _ example, the labour approach, the changes they want to make, - example, the labour approach, the changes they want to make, for - changes they want to make, for ekampie. — changes they want to make, for example, shutting _ changes they want to make, for example, shutting down- changes they want to make, for example, shutting down the - changes they want to make, for. example, shutting down the north sea, industry— example, shutting down the north sea, industry has _ example, shutting down the north sea, industry has said _ example, shutting down the north sea, industry has said that - example, shutting down the north sea, industry has said that will - example, shutting down the north sea, industry has said that will be | sea, industry has said that will be the country— sea, industry has said that will be the country on _ sea, industry has said that will be the country on investable. - sea, industry has said that will be the country on investable. it- sea, industry has said that will be the country on investable. it is i the country on investable. it is interesting. — the country on investable. it is interesting, a _ the country on investable. it is interesting, a lot _ the country on investable. it is interesting, a lot of— the country on investable. interesting, a lot of people the country on investable.- interesting, a lot of people think the government is not credibly contract to hit that 2013 target. all of this really matters because by law the country has to hit the net to zero by 2050. it is a live area. i do think, as you heard they are, i do think the tories are going to really try and make this a big dividing line, to use that terrible jargon, in the election. b5 dividing line, to use that terrible jargon, in the election.— jargon, in the election. as you heard, rishi _ jargon, in the election. as you heard, rishi sunak's _ jargon, in the election. as you heard, rishi sunak's view - jargon, in the election. as you heard, rishi sunak's view is i jargon, in the election. as you - heard, rishi sunak's view is climate change is real, we have these targets and we want to meet these targets, but there has clearly been a watering down of some of the steps towards those targets, and i watched when that happened, it was the uxbridge and south rice lake by—election, it was not of a climate issue but a pollution issue which was extending the ultra low emission zone to the outer london boroughs.
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it was about to happen and it was a huge thing. i went a month before the by—election, sitting on the beautiful axbridge cricket green talking to people playing cricket on a beautiful mid summers evening, and they said there is no way we can vote labour because you are going to make our lives difficult here by extending the zone, you do understand our lives. i went back to westminster and said two tory mps, i think you can win that by—election and they said are you mad? they won it. . ., , ., and they said are you mad? they won it. . . , ., ., and they said are you mad? they won it. . ., ., ., ., and they said are you mad? they won it. . ., ., ., | and they said are you mad? they won it. . ., ., imet and they said are you mad? they won it-— i met a - it. was it all down to you. i met a member of— it. was it all down to you. i met a member of the _ it. was it all down to you. i met a member of the service, _ it. was it all down to you. i met a member of the service, he - it. was it all down to you. i met a member of the service, he cleans your— member of the service, he cleans your home — member of the service, he cleans your home scratcher, and cleans your oven _ your home scratcher, and cleans your oven his— your home scratcher, and cleans your oven his van— your home scratcher, and cleans your oven. his van wasn't compliant. he said if— oven. his van wasn't compliant. he said if he _ oven. his van wasn't compliant. he said if he makes me pay, i oven. his van wasn't compliant. he said if he makes me pay, lam oven. his van wasn't compliant. he said if he makes me pay, i am going to get— said if he makes me pay, i am going to get out— said if he makes me pay, i am going to get out of— said if he makes me pay, i am going to get out of the business. inevitably, in riposte to the westminster bubble people say this isiust_ westminster bubble people say this isiust a _ westminster bubble people say this isjust a matter of
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westminster bubble people say this is just a matter of 600 or 800 votes — is just a matter of 600 or 800 votes but— is just a matter of 600 or 800 votes. but it was so against the odds _ votes. but it was so against the odds because it was the boris johnson — odds because it was the boris johnson seat, it was a big moment. and it _ johnson seat, it was a big moment. and it was — johnson seat, it was a big moment. and it was you to understand our lives because the point of public transport uxbridge, you can get in and out of london, but to get around you don't have the public transport. we are not going to have people in london complaining about not having much public transport when newscasters around the country do not have tubes or buses or all sorts of other things. this will not stand. �* , ., of other things. this will not stand. �* ., stand. and you can get on the elizabeth line. _ stand. and you can get on the elizabeth line. there - stand. and you can get on the elizabeth line. there is - stand. and you can get on the elizabeth line. there is an - elizabeth line. there is an embarrassment _ elizabeth line. there is an embarrassment of - elizabeth line. there is an embarrassment of choice | elizabeth line. there is an i embarrassment of choice in elizabeth line. there is an - embarrassment of choice in the capital. embarrassment of choice in the ca - ital. �* embarrassment of choice in the caital. �* , ., embarrassment of choice in the caital. , ., ., ., capital. and people who do not live in greater london _ capital. and people who do not live in greater london are _ capital. and people who do not live in greater london are curious. - capital. and people who do not live in greater london are curious. it i in greater london are curious. it was _ in greater london are curious. it was a _ in greater london are curious. it was a hot — in greater london are curious. it was a hot button issue. am i right? you are _ was a hot button issue. am i right? you are deep— was a hot button issue. am i right? you are deep boffins. it did, after that rishi — you are deep boffins. it did, after that rishi sunak donated his plans. it that rishi sunak donated his plans. it shifted _ that rishi sunak donated his plans. it shifted their policy no doubt, but it hasn't shifted since then. it is because the government has scaled back on some of the speed of its overall condition on climate, there
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is no doubt about that. but it hasn't shifted the polls. doesn't look like it was a genius idea at the time? that is a cunning bit of political fancy footwork, possibly. i think they were in complete shock they had won this by—election because they were astonished and they thought here is a great opportunity, but as laura says, fundamentally it hasn't shifted the dialogue nationally. what fundamentally it hasn't shifted the dialogue nationally.— dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? _ dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? they - dialogue nationally. what about labour on climate? they are . labour on climate? they are promising clean energy by 2030, which to a lot of people might sound like a good thing on the tin. the shadowjustice secretary emitted this morning they will have to have reserves of gas, which they don't like saying so much, it doesn't fit in with the slogan. but the question to them has always been for the last couple of months, how do you pay for this big expensive transition if they are no longer committed to the £20 billion, and also given the giant size of the promises they are making, how do you get there, in
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this bb are claiming? brute making, how do you get there, in this bb are claiming?— making, how do you get there, in this bb are claiming? we have had to recalibrate our _ this bb are claiming? we have had to recalibrate our plans _ this bb are claiming? we have had to recalibrate our plans given _ this bb are claiming? we have had to recalibrate our plans given what - this bb are claiming? we have had to recalibrate our plans given what is . recalibrate our plans given what is the likely economic inheritance that this government will leave for whoever is in the next government. we have had to do that, we obviously want to make sure everything we put forward is credible, fiscal responsibility is the basis for all of those plants, and we have to make sure any borrowing is within our fiscal rules. but that doesn't stop us from having an incredibly ambitious plan to get it clean power by 2030, we can do that with the commitments we have made. we have laid out the detail of our spending plans there. what will come from the windfall tax, what will come from recalibrated plans on borrowing, but some borrowing on the same to make sure we can have clean energy and the secure and get our bills down. that phrase because of the economic inheritance, — that phrase because of the economic inheritance, we are going to recalibrate our plans, i am going to have to _ recalibrate our plans, i am going to have to get — recalibrate our plans, i am going to
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have to get used to that. i recalibrate our plans, i am going to have to get used to that.— have to get used to that. i think ou have to get used to that. i think you really _ have to get used to that. i think you really are- _ have to get used to that. i think you really are. it _ have to get used to that. i think you really are. it is _ have to get used to that. i think you really are. it is not - have to get used to that. i think you really are. it is not a - have to get used to that. i think you really are. it is not a full- you really are. it is not a full u-turn, _ you really are. it is not a full u-turn, because _ you really are. it is not a full u-turn, because they - you really are. it is not a full u-turn, because they are i you really are. it is not a full. u-turn, because they are still u—turn, because they are still committed but they are not committed to the 28 billion. thea;r committed but they are not committed to the 28 billion.— to the 28 billion. they committed to the promised _ to the 28 billion. they committed to the promised but _ to the 28 billion. they committed to the promised but not _ to the 28 billion. they committed to the promised but not the _ to the 28 billion. they committed to the promised but not the price - to the 28 billion. they committed to the promised but not the price tag. | the promised but not the price tag. if i say i would like to buy ten bags of sweets and they are going to cost me £10, i can say i am not going to spend £10, but i still want to get the ten bags of sweets. you can see the tories will go after them again and again because it will allow them to save their favourite thing about the labour party, which is their subs don't add up. what thing about the labour party, which is their subs don't add up.— is their subs don't add up. what is the planned _ is their subs don't add up. what is the planned vote _ is their subs don't add up. what is the planned vote labour? - is their subs don't add up. what is the planned vote labour? how- is their subs don't add up. what is | the planned vote labour? how will they foot the bill to invest in renewable energy?— they foot the bill to invest in renewable energy? they foot the bill to invest in renewable ener: ? , ., renewable energy? there is a feeling in the shadow _ renewable energy? there is a feeling in the shadow cabinet _ renewable energy? there is a feeling in the shadow cabinet the _ renewable energy? there is a feeling in the shadow cabinet the other - in the shadow cabinet the other monumentally right to have this plan to move _ monumentally right to have this plan to move to— monumentally right to have this plan to move to clean power by 2030, but they were _ to move to clean power by 2030, but they were monumentally wrong not to brand _ they were monumentally wrong not to brand it _ they were monumentally wrong not to brand it as— they were monumentally wrong not to brand it as clean power by 2030, but to brand _ brand it as clean power by 2030, but to brand it _ brand it as clean power by 2030, but to brand it on 28 billion a year from — to brand it on 28 billion a year from day— to brand it on 28 billion a year from day one. a lot of feeling in the shadow cabinet that is the fault of ed miliband who is profoundly committed to this, but comes from
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the gordon— committed to this, but comes from the gordon brown camp, and how did gordon— the gordon brown camp, and how did gordon brown define what he was doing _ gordon brown define what he was doing when he was chancellor? it was by a spending tag. we have moved on from that— by a spending tag. we have moved on from that era, it is much more difficult — from that era, it is much more difficult era, and the concern is this is— difficult era, and the concern is this is the _ difficult era, and the concern is this is the right thing to do because _ this is the right thing to do because you want to have clean power. — because you want to have clean power. it — because you want to have clean power. it is _ because you want to have clean power, it is the right thing to do because — power, it is the right thing to do because what you are talking about is regenerating areas that have been left behind, what you are talking about _ left behind, what you are talking about is — left behind, what you are talking about is taking joe biden's plan, the inflation reduction act, and putting — the inflation reduction act, and putting it — the inflation reduction act, and putting it here. the mistake they believe _ putting it here. the mistake they believe they made was to define it around _ believe they made was to define it around money, and that was fine 15-20 _ around money, and that was fine 15-20 years _ around money, and that was fine 15—20 years ago, not fine now. and there _ 15—20 years ago, not fine now. and there is— 15—20 years ago, not fine now. and there is a _ 15—20 years ago, not fine now. and there is a worry you have damaged what _ there is a worry you have damaged what is _ there is a worry you have damaged what is a _ there is a worry you have damaged what is a very good idea by labelling it in the wrong way. vacancies in the shadow cabinet. when _ vacancies in the shadow cabinet. when you — vacancies in the shadow cabinet. when you see damage, just means being three times ahead in the pulse of the government. tony blair has given a interesting interview to the magazine, to newscasters looking to
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pay to journalism today. he says a couple of things today. including this point, the economic inheritance the next government is going to get is not being properly addressed, what does it look like on day one for rachel reeves orjeremy hunt? this is one of the huge unsaid things, is that the conservatives do not want to talk at all in their campaign ortheir not want to talk at all in their campaign or their manifesto about the kind of squeeze there could be two public budgets on the plan so far they have laid out. and the labour party also absolutely does not want to talk about the squeeze there might be on budget, because what the squeeze on public budgets mean? it means less money to spend on hospitals and schools, and also means if you want to do big snazzy reforms, which might save you more money in the long term, they often
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cost some money in the short—term, and there is not going to be much of that around. anyway, coming into the election, it is not going to be like a cheque—book collection of old where everyone is promising huge amounts of billiards, but there is going to be something of a conspiracy of silence. that might be too strong, but a reluctance, a very distinct reluctance to spell out what the economic picture will mean in the brass tacks, although labour are happy to go around saying it is going to be the worst economic inheritance since world war ii. than inheritance since world war ii. in marrow scratch at running inheritance since world war ii. 3531 marrow scratch at running jeremy hunt is not helping on that —— and marathon running jeremy hunt is not helping. after the general election, we do not have specific numbers on the tin, so if labour wins the election you will have a new chancellor who will have to outline those spending plans, which under the current plan will mean serious
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cuts in unprotected areas and they will have to take the can for that. what i would say is that a real nerves in the shadow cabinet at the moment about what happens after the election. you talk to them, and privately they say, of course we are going to win the election, of course we are going to have to majority but we're not saying that because we cannot be complacent. what they are worried about is not so much they don't have the plan. there is so great who is getting them ready, —— sue grey. what they are worried about is the not ready politically for what they are going to do. the big concerns in the rachel reeves circle at the moment. what is going to the of her chancellor issue? it was going to be... they are really nervous and not have heard enough politically for that governance for a day one. it politically for that governance for a da one. . . politically for that governance for ada one. , . , ,
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a day one. it is that phrase be careful what _ a day one. it is that phrase be careful what you _ a day one. it is that phrase be careful what you wish - a day one. it is that phrase be careful what you wish for. - careful what you wish for. yesterday, you promised us tittle tattie _ yesterday, you promised us tittle tattle about election timing and you refused _ tattle about election timing and you refused to— tattle about election timing and you refused to give it to us. | tattle about election timing and you refused to give it to us. i was auoin to refused to give it to us. i was going to keep _ refused to give it to us. i was going to keep that _ refused to give it to us. i was going to keep that as - refused to give it to us. i was going to keep that as a - refused to give it to us. i was going to keep that as a fun i refused to give it to us. i was i going to keep that as a fun thing refused to give it to us. i was - going to keep that as a fun thing at the end of the podcast but i will tell you now. i am not saying this is going to happen at all, but to add to the endless running fountain of election date speculation, there has been a lot of chatter about early election, will rishi sunak be forced into naming a date after the local elections if there is some kind of tory armageddon or if things like andy street loses in birmingham however it was suggested to me this week there was a potential even more cunning plan to try to avoid jangling horror of a post—local challenge to rishi sunak, kid actually call the general election
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before the local elections, some it called the general election at the end of april, have the general election injune and therefore avoid a postal local election armageddon and a challenge to his leadership because by that point mps will be scurrying around trying to hold onto their seats. that is potentially very clever and it is a constitutional point there. now we have to stand _ constitutional point there. now we have to stand extremely _ constitutional point there. now we have to stand extremely pompous| have to stand extremely pompous talking about the constitution. i talking about the constitution. i find it very easy to do this. you have _ find it very easy to do this. you have to — find it very easy to do this. you have to be _ find it very easy to do this. you have to be very pompous when talking about _ have to be very pompous when talking about the _ have to be very pompous when talking about the constitution, becoming the eiection— about the constitution, becoming the eiection is— about the constitution, becoming the election is technically a powerful demonic— election is technically a powerful demonic and the prime minister has to request _ demonic and the prime minister has to request the monarch to dissolve parliament. and to request the monarch to dissolve parliament-— to request the monarch to dissolve parliament. �* ., ., . parliament. and the monarch as i was ha - to parliament. and the monarch as i was happy to do — parliament. and the monarch as i was happy to do that _ parliament. and the monarch as i was happy to do that assuming _ parliament. and the monarch as i was happy to do that assuming you - parliament. and the monarch as i was happy to do that assuming you are - parliament. and the monarch as i was happy to do that assuming you are a i happy to do that assuming you are a fully functioning prime minister. what is the definition of a fully functioning prime minister? hagar what is the definition of a fully functioning prime minister? how long have ou functioning prime minister? how long have you got? — functioning prime minister? how long have you got? you — functioning prime minister? how long have you got? you command - functioning prime minister? how long have you got? you command the - have you got? you command the confidence _ have you got? you command the confidence of _ have you got? you command the confidence of the _ have you got? you command the confidence of the house - have you got? you command the confidence of the house of - have you got? you command the - confidence of the house of commons, which means at the moment you
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command the confidence of the conservative party. if there is any question, a challenge to rishi sunak that he doesn't command the confidence of his party, and therefore he doesn't command the confidence of the commons, demonic may have to pause, or the golden triangle as it is known, that have the discussions before the prime minister make the request, they need to pause at the is any question mark about whether he is a fully functioning prime minister. band about whether he is a fully functioning prime minister. and the arc ument functioning prime minister. and the argument that _ functioning prime minister. and the argument that was _ functioning prime minister. and the argument that was put _ functioning prime minister. and the argument that was put to _ functioning prime minister. and the argument that was put to me - functioning prime minister. and the argument that was put to me about j argument that was put to me about somebody who believes they ought to take this tack, and i am not saying this is what is going to happen, we are in the business of scenario understanding, but this has been put to me and it is worth it to put it out there amongst other election speculation. a summer election is a possibility being discussed. that is being discussed in serious political circles. the cabinet minister said
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it is not the most likely option but possible. the point about going early and calling in april would basically be rishi sunak using what is one of the last things left to him, which is the power of surprise. it might not be that surprise and now we are talking about it today. nothing else seems to be moving for him or helping, so actually if he could stun everybody, notjust by going early but going even earlier, that might help him regain the agenda. he that might help him regain the arenda. . . that might help him regain the arenda. . , , that might help him regain the arenda. , agenda. he has implied the opposite, and isn't there — agenda. he has implied the opposite, and isn't there also _ agenda. he has implied the opposite, and isn't there also a _ agenda. he has implied the opposite, and isn't there also a case _ agenda. he has implied the opposite, and isn't there also a case for- and isn't there also a case for going long. i have said why not january? no one is going to take what i say seriously on this, i hope you don't! it is totally new thinking laura is making me do. i thinking laura is making me do. i was talking to one of his close friends — was talking to one of his close friends the other day who is an advocate — friends the other day who is an advocate for going as late as
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possible _ advocate for going as late as possible and we were talking about this potential summer election and this potential summer election and this person has said i have got to id this person has said i have got to go see _ this person has said i have got to go see rishi sunak and talent this is not _ go see rishi sunak and talent this is not a _ go see rishi sunak and talent this is not a good idea. was the original rishi _ is not a good idea. was the original rishi sunak— is not a good idea. was the original rishi sunak thinking information is heading _ rishi sunak thinking information is heading in — rishi sunak thinking information is heading in one direction, down, interest— heading in one direction, down, interest rates following much bigger than relatively modest tax cuts, single _ than relatively modest tax cuts, single rate. the problem with that is they— single rate. the problem with that is they had — single rate. the problem with that is they had seemed in downing street, — is they had seemed in downing street, we would start to be seeing the beginnings of those interest rate cuts— the beginnings of those interest rate cuts in may. that is clearly not going — rate cuts in may. that is clearly not going to happen because of persistent inflation in the united states — persistent inflation in the united states it — persistent inflation in the united states. it is having a knock—on effect — states. it is having a knock—on effect on — states. it is having a knock—on effect on us. we may not see interest— effect on us. we may not see interest rates go down until september, which lends the argument, the credence, to the potential laura scenario— the credence, to the potential laura scenario of— the credence, to the potential laura scenario of getting on with it. the other thing _ scenario of getting on with it. the other thing is _ scenario of getting on with it. tue: other thing is in tory hq, the other thing is in tory h0, the feeling is to be things can't get worse, but then they did and then they did again and again, and whether it is fully am a rag popping up whether it is fully am a rag popping up one week, mark menzies the next
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week, you have got a by—election in the other week. the feeling is the economy will improve and maybe if that will come to pass, people might have been able to afford the first holiday in a while, but england will do well in the football. all of these things matter to the national mood. the theory that things couldn't get worse have been tested to destruction. iloathe couldn't get worse have been tested to destruction.— to destruction. who knows? a significant _ to destruction. who knows? a significant tory _ to destruction. who knows? a significant tory said _ to destruction. who knows? a significant tory said to - to destruction. who knows? a significant tory said to meet i to destruction. who knows? a l significant tory said to meet the key signal to look at on election timing is when does conservative central office imposed by election rules for the selection of candidates. so when you impose by—election rules, that means conservative central office has massive power over the selection of candidates, which normally they don't have. 50 candidates, which normally they don't have-—
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candidates, which normally they don't have. , ., don't have. so they can triangle it b the don't have. so they can triangle it by the by-election. _ don't have. so they can triangle it by the by-election. but _ don't have. so they can triangle it by the by-election. but it - don't have. so they can triangle it by the by-election. but it is - don't have. so they can triangle it by the by-election. but it is tory l by the by-election. but it is tory hq by the by-election. but it is tory h0 imposing _ by the by-election. but it is tory hq imposing different _ by the by-election. but it is tory i hq imposing different by-election hq imposing different by—election rules for the selection of candidates, it is not by—election is for normal people. it is when the central party can go right, sorry local people, we're not going to consult you and put a favourite people into this pot.— consult you and put a favourite people into this pot. your election tittle tattle was _ people into this pot. your election tittle tattle was worth _ people into this pot. your election tittle tattle was worth waiting - people into this pot. your election tittle tattle was worth waiting 24 i tittle tattle was worth waiting 24 hours _ tittle tattle was worth waiting 24 hours for~ — tittle tattle was worth waiting 24 hours for. . ., ., ~ hours for. election tittle tattle? a well researched _ hours for. election tittle tattle? a well researched piece _ hours for. election tittle tattle? a well researched piece of - well researched piece of intelligence from a distinguished journalist speaking to leading members of the governing party. we have to stick together, as political hacks. i have to stick together, as political hacks. .., ., ., 4' have to stick together, as political hacks. .. ., ., ~ ., hacks. i feel educated looking at the two of _ hacks. i feel educated looking at the two of you- _ hacks. i feel educated looking at the two of you. aren't _ hacks. i feel educated looking at the two of you. aren't you - hacks. i feel educated looking at| the two of you. aren't you lucky? hacks. i feel educated looking at - the two of you. aren't you lucky? we are auoin the two of you. aren't you lucky? we are going to — the two of you. aren't you lucky? we are going to move — the two of you. aren't you lucky? we are going to move around _ the two of you. aren't you lucky? we are going to move around the - the two of you. aren't you lucky? we are going to move around the new. are going to move around the new style _ are going to move around the new style because time will defeat us if we don't _ style because time will defeat us if we don't get to the giant met mess. we spoke _ we don't get to the giant met mess. we spoke about this yesterday and i gladly spoke about it, notjust because it is important because it is a story that has been building
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some significance, and if you didn't hear the episode or watched the news, a jewish hear the episode or watched the news, ajewish man gideon hear the episode or watched the news, a jewish man gideon voltaire was told by a member of the metropolitan police when he was passing a pro—palestinian demonstration he was openlyjewish, which is something many people took offence at —— gideon falter. i suggested he moved on from the demonstration. fast forward 24 hours, suella braverman is calling for the met boss to go and there is a lot of political discussion about what should happen. james cleverley has written to the metropolitan police commissioner, i understand they will have a meeting to discuss what happens in the coming days. i was asking the cabinet minister this morning, should mark rowley have to go. morning, should mark rowley have to .o_ , ., morning, should mark rowley have to go. these are questions for the home secreta , go. these are questions for the home secretary. i — go. these are questions for the home secretary. i know _ go. these are questions for the home secretary, i know he _ go. these are questions for the home secretary, i know he will— go. these are questions for the home secretary, i know he will be _ go. these are questions for the home secretary, i know he will be meeting i secretary, i know he will be meeting with ministers in coming days, but the really important thing is we get policing right. if you look at what has happened in this incident, a
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member of the public has been told they cannot go about their daily life, walk around the streets of london because of their identity. that is not what equality means in society. that is not what equality means in socie . �* . that is not what equality means in socie .�* , ., ., ., that is not what equality means in socie .�* , ., ., society. because of that, do you believe mark _ society. because of that, do you believe mark rowley _ society. because of that, do you believe mark rowley should - society. because of that, do you| believe mark rowley should lose society. because of that, do you - believe mark rowley should lose his job? i believe mark rowley should lose his 'ob? , . , ., �* believe mark rowley should lose his 'ob? , ., �* ., . job? i personally wouldn't go that far because _ job? i personally wouldn't go that far because i _ job? i personally wouldn't go that far because i haven't _ job? i personally wouldn't go that far because i haven't had - job? i personally wouldn't go that far because i haven't had the - far because i haven't had the conversations with him, i do understand yet what he is going to say to the home secretary. this compositions need to take place. but it is important we stand by the jewish community and other communities and say we will not stand for this, this is not what equality means in society today. tiara equality means in society today. two thins, the equality means in society today. two things, the met has re—apologised. but since _ things, the met has re—apologised. but since then gideon falter has been _ but since then gideon falter has been speaking on camera and on the radio to _ been speaking on camera and on the radio to broadcasters including the bbc and _ radio to broadcasters including the bbc and here is what he said. i think bbc and here is what he said. think it is bbc and here is what he said. i think it is time for mark rowley to lo, think it is time for mark rowley to go. he _ think it is time for mark rowley to go. he has — think it is time for mark rowley to go. he has had _ think it is time for mark rowley to go, he has had long _ think it is time for mark rowley to go, he has had long enough- think it is time for mark rowley to go, he has had long enough to - think it is time for mark rowley to| go, he has had long enough to get think it is time for mark rowley to i go, he has had long enough to get to -rips go, he has had long enough to get to grips with— go, he has had long enough to get to grips with this — go, he has had long enough to get to grips with this situation, _ go, he has had long enough to get to grips with this situation, to _ go, he has had long enough to get to
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grips with this situation, to get - grips with this situation, to get his poiice — grips with this situation, to get his police force _ grips with this situation, to get his police force under- grips with this situation, to get his police force under control, i grips with this situation, to get. his police force under control, tell his police force under control, tell his front _ his police force under control, tell his front line — his police force under control, tell his front line officers _ his police force under control, tell his front line officers do _ his police force under control, tell his front line officers do not - his front line officers do not worry, _ his front line officers do not worry, we _ his front line officers do not worry. we are _ his front line officers do not worry, we are going - his front line officers do not worry, we are going to - his front line officers do not| worry, we are going to send his front line officers do not - worry, we are going to send enough pleas— worry, we are going to send enough pleas to — worry, we are going to send enough pieas to back— worry, we are going to send enough pieas to back you _ worry, we are going to send enough pleas to back you up _ worry, we are going to send enough pleas to back you up so _ worry, we are going to send enough pleas to back you up so you - worry, we are going to send enough pleas to back you up so you can - worry, we are going to send enough i pleas to back you up so you can make the right— pleas to back you up so you can make the right decisions. _ pleas to back you up so you can make the right decisions. instead _ pleas to back you up so you can make the right decisions. instead he - the right decisions. instead he hasn't — the right decisions. instead he hasn't done _ the right decisions. instead he hasn't done that _ the right decisions. instead he hasn't done that because - the right decisions. instead he hasn't done that because of. the right decisions. instead he i hasn't done that because of that the right decisions. instead he - hasn't done that because of that he hasn't done that because of that he has to— hasn't done that because of that he has to go. — hasn't done that because of that he has to go. the _ hasn't done that because of that he has to go, the time _ hasn't done that because of that he has to go, the time has— hasn't done that because of that he has to go, the time has come. - hasn't done that because of that he has to go, the time has come. letl hasn't done that because of that he has to go, the time has come. let me rive more has to go, the time has come. let me give more of — has to go, the time has come. let me give more of what _ has to go, the time has come. let me give more of what the _ has to go, the time has come. let me give more of what the met _ has to go, the time has come. let me give more of what the met said. - give more of what the met said. using _ give more of what the met said. using the — give more of what the met said. using the term openlyjewish by one of our— using the term openlyjewish by one of our officers is hugely regrettable, we know it will have caused _ regrettable, we know it will have caused offence to many. we reiterate our apology. caused offence to many. we reiterate ourapology. in caused offence to many. we reiterate our apology. in an effort to make a point _ our apology. in an effort to make a point about — our apology. in an effort to make a point about the policing at a protest _ point about the policing at a protest because further offence, this was— protest because further offence, this was never our intention. we have _ this was never our intention. we have removed that statement and apologised. beingjewish have removed that statement and apologised. being jewish is not a provocation, jewish londoners must be able _ provocation, jewish londoners must be able to— provocation, jewish londoners must be able to feel safe in the city. the combination of the met and politics gets very messy very quickly, but it is too many nukes castis quickly, but it is too many nukes cast is staggering that the met continues to find itself getting into things. —— newscasters. we have
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talked about so many things. come back another time, especially after you have been so polite.— back another time, especially after you have been so polite. thank you and goodbye- _ you have been so polite. thank you and goodbye. goodbye. _ hello there. good afternoon. well, april sunshine has a little bit more kick to it and it will feel quite pleasant in the best of that out towards western spots of the uk for the rest of the afternoon. lovely start to the day here in pembrokeshire, albeit a chilly one. the air is cold for the time of year and it's exceptionally cold towards north sea facing coasts with a brisk northeasterly wind blowing, and that colder air marked in blue is just set to stick around as we head through much of the rest of the week, although it could turn milder and more unsettled from the southwest by the time we get
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into next weekend. but lots of dry weather around today. high pressure centred over the uk. a warm front though bringing some occasional rain, most of it light and patchy across many central eastern areas of scotland down through north west england, sunny spells still across east anglia and down through south east england. small chance of an isolated shower, best of the sunshine for western scotland and particularly northern ireland, where temperatures will rise in the best of the sunshine to 18 degrees celsius. now as we head through this evening and overnight, it's milder for most towards the north and the west, a warm front gradually sinks further southwards and eastwards, introducing some rain into north wales and northeast england as well. some coastal and some hill fog behind the front forming but clear skies across southeast england, and east anglia, maybe a touch of frost again into tomorrow morning. and then as our warm front introduces more cloud into these areas moving southwards and eastwards, then that cloud will overtop the cold start to the day. so it's going to feel really quite damp and very chilly
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for many of us, i'm afraid. through the day on monday there'll be further outbreaks of rain too, moving into eastern wales and across the midlands. some spots here may not get much past six degrees celsius perhaps, but further north and west, well across northern ireland it's cloudier and it's a little cooler. the best of the sunshine probably across scotland where some spots in the central belt perhaps could get as high as 16 degrees as we head through monday and into tuesday. then there's a cold front sinking southwards that's going to introduce more of a northerly wind. so again, it's a cold feeling day for the time of year, the best of the sunshine out towards parts of the west. it's always cloudier towards north sea facing coasts with rain gradually clearing away from east anglia and the south east of england, but feeling chilly once again for the time of year.
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live from london. this is bbc news. the mp mark menzies has resigned from the uk's conservative party and will stand down at the next general election. the bill is passed. angerfrom russia after us lawmakers pass a long—delayed 61 billion dollar aid package for ukraine. at least 14 children are reported to have been killed in the latest israeli air strikes on rafah in southern gaza. the london mayor arranges an urgent meeting with the met commissioner
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after the handling of ajewish man during a pro—palestinian demonstration in london. british conductor sir andrew davis has died aged 80. the bbc symphony orchestra described him as a vital force the bbc symphony orchestra described him as a vitalforce in music for many decades. we begin with the breaking news. in the past hour or so, mark menzies has announced he will stand down at the next general election.
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the times reported that mr menzies is accused of receiving

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